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  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
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  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
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  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
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Проект стартует в октябре 2010г. и рассчитывается до 2014г. включительно. Инвестиции будут осуществляться на протяжении 2010 и 2011гг. частями. Расходы на текущую деятельность (не включаемые в инвестиционные затраты),- как например з/пл директора и т.п.,- начинаются с октября 2010г. Выпуск продукции с января 2011г.
Вопросы: 1. Нужно ли дисконтировать и инвестиционные затраты?
  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
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                            [POST_MESSAGE] => Помогите пожалуйста в расчете NPV.
Проект стартует в октябре 2010г. и рассчитывается до 2014г. включительно. Инвестиции будут осуществляться на протяжении 2010 и 2011гг. частями. Расходы на текущую деятельность (не включаемые в инвестиционные затраты),- как например з/пл директора и т.п.,- начинаются с октября 2010г. Выпуск продукции с января 2011г.
Вопросы: 1. Нужно ли дисконтировать и инвестиционные затраты?
  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
                            [POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => Помогите пожалуйста в расчете NPV.
Проект стартует в октябре 2010г. и рассчитывается до 2014г. включительно. Инвестиции будут осуществляться на протяжении 2010 и 2011гг. частями. Расходы на текущую деятельность (не включаемые в инвестиционные затраты),- как например з/пл директора и т.п.,- начинаются с октября 2010г. Выпуск продукции с января 2011г.
Вопросы: 1. Нужно ли дисконтировать и инвестиционные затраты?
  2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?
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                            [POST_MESSAGE] => 1.Инвестиционные затраты нужно дисконтировать обязательно.
2.Дисконтировать надо начиная с 2010 года, но в 2010 году брать степень дисконтирования не 1, а 0,25, так как денежные потоки появляются только в последнем квартале года.
                            [POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => 1.Инвестиционные затраты нужно дисконтировать обязательно.
2.Дисконтировать надо начиная с 2010 года, но в 2010 году брать степень дисконтирования не 1, а 0,25, так как денежные потоки появляются только в последнем квартале года.
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                            [POST_MESSAGE] => А вот встречный вопрос: по какой ставке планируете дисконтировать?
                            [POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => А вот встречный вопрос: по какой ставке планируете дисконтировать?
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NPV, Запрос помощи в расчете NPV

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Сообщений: 1 Регистрация: 09.09.2010

09.09.2010 11:40:45

Помогите пожалуйста в расчете NPV.
Проект стартует в октябре 2010г. и рассчитывается до 2014г. включительно. Инвестиции будут осуществляться на протяжении 2010 и 2011гг. частями. Расходы на текущую деятельность (не включаемые в инвестиционные затраты),- как например з/пл директора и т.п.,- начинаются с октября 2010г. Выпуск продукции с января 2011г.
Вопросы: 1. Нужно ли дисконтировать и инвестиционные затраты?
2. Дисконтировать денежные потоки нужно начиная с 2010 года или с 2011г. (Нулевой период есть? Нет классической ситуации, когда потратили ден. ср-ва и с n-ого числа начали производить..)?

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13.09.2010 10:37:14

1.Инвестиционные затраты нужно дисконтировать обязательно.
2.Дисконтировать надо начиная с 2010 года, но в 2010 году брать степень дисконтирования не 1, а 0,25, так как денежные потоки появляются только в последнем квартале года.

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Дмитрий Аноним Заглянувший Сообщений: 2 Баллов: 1 Регистрация: 29.03.2007	#3 28.09.2010 19:54:19 А вот встречный вопрос: по какой ставке планируете дисконтировать?
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