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[POST_MESSAGE] => Ну... Мне вопрос не очень понятен, т.к. Денежные потоки распределены по периодам то в формуле дисконтирования меняется степень, если степень меняется, то и коэффициент тоже меняется. См учебник ПВК стр 2016 http://www.pwc.ru/ru/training/ifrs-us-gaap/acca-dipifr-study-materials.jhtml
(1/1.12^1+1/1.12^2+1/1.12^3) это три коэффициента дисконтирования
Или про другое вопрос?
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(1/1.12^1+1/1.12^2+1/1.12^3) это три коэффициента дисконтирования
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(1/1.12^1+1/1.12^2+1/1.12^3) это три коэффициента дисконтирования
Или про другое вопрос?
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Или про другое вопрос?
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[POST_MESSAGE] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
Процентная ставка у вас указана в процентах годовых видимо, а вы скорее всего считаете, что ставка купона 8,2, 8,5, 7,9 % от номинала каждые полгода (то есть 16,4 и т.п.% годовых).
Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет.
Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
[~POST_MESSAGE] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
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Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
[POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
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Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет.
Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
[~POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
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Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
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Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
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Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет.
Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
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Цитата
Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?
Расчеты скорее всего не так Процентная ставка у вас указана в процентах годовых видимо, а вы скорее всего считаете, что ставка купона 8,2, 8,5, 7,9 % от номинала каждые полгода (то есть 16,4 и т.п.% годовых). Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет. Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
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[POST_MESSAGE] => Здравствуйте! Подскажите, пжл, должны ли меняться при дисконтировании облигационного займа коэффициенты дисконтирования на каждую отчетную дату? И есть ли этому какие-нибудь обоснования?
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[POST_MESSAGE] => Ну... Мне вопрос не очень понятен, т.к. Денежные потоки распределены по периодам то в формуле дисконтирования меняется степень, если степень меняется, то и коэффициент тоже меняется. См учебник ПВК стр 2016 http://www.pwc.ru/ru/training/ifrs-us-gaap/acca-dipifr-study-materials.jhtml
(1/1.12^1+1/1.12^2+1/1.12^3) это три коэффициента дисконтирования
Или про другое вопрос?
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[POST_MESSAGE] => Приблизительно ситуация следующая: в ноябре привлечен облигационный займ (по номиналу) с плавающей процентной ставкой по купону (сначала 8,2, через год 8,5, еще через год 7,9 и т.д.), который начисляется и выплачивается раз в пол года. Определяем дисконтированную стоимость по эффективной ставке 10,4 на будущую отчетную дату, получаем сумму выше номинала! Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?
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[POST_MESSAGE] => Денежные потоки полугодовые, а ставка годовая, т.е. степень должна быть 1/2 вместо 1? Не? Не хочется в Эксель лезть :)
[POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => Денежные потоки полугодовые, а ставка годовая, т.е. степень должна быть 1/2 вместо 1? Не? Не хочется в Эксель лезть :)
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[POST_MESSAGE] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
Процентная ставка у вас указана в процентах годовых видимо, а вы скорее всего считаете, что ставка купона 8,2, 8,5, 7,9 % от номинала каждые полгода (то есть 16,4 и т.п.% годовых).
Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет.
Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
[POST_MESSAGE_HTML] => [QUOTE]Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?[/QUOTE]
Расчеты скорее всего не так :-)
Процентная ставка у вас указана в процентах годовых видимо, а вы скорее всего считаете, что ставка купона 8,2, 8,5, 7,9 % от номинала каждые полгода (то есть 16,4 и т.п.% годовых).
Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет.
Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.
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Здравствуйте! Подскажите, пжл, должны ли меняться при дисконтировании облигационного займа коэффициенты дисконтирования на каждую отчетную дату? И есть ли этому какие-нибудь обоснования?
Ну... Мне вопрос не очень понятен, т.к. Денежные потоки распределены по периодам то в формуле дисконтирования меняется степень, если степень меняется, то и коэффициент тоже меняется. См учебник ПВК стр 2016 http://www.pwc.ru/ru/training/ifrs-us-gaap/acca-dipifr-study-materials.jhtml (1/1.12^1+1/1.12^2+1/1.12^3) это три коэффициента дисконтирования
Приблизительно ситуация следующая: в ноябре привлечен облигационный займ (по номиналу) с плавающей процентной ставкой по купону (сначала 8,2, через год 8,5, еще через год 7,9 и т.д.), который начисляется и выплачивается раз в пол года. Определяем дисконтированную стоимость по эффективной ставке 10,4 на будущую отчетную дату, получаем сумму выше номинала! Вопрос в следующем: что здесь может быть не так?
Расчеты скорее всего не так Процентная ставка у вас указана в процентах годовых видимо, а вы скорее всего считаете, что ставка купона 8,2, 8,5, 7,9 % от номинала каждые полгода (то есть 16,4 и т.п.% годовых). Дисконтированная стоимость в таком случае получается выше номинала.
Денежный поток по процентам у вас конечно ежегодно меняется, а ставка дисконтирования нет. Может быть у вас ставка неизвестна на дату получения займа? Тогда это совсем другой вопрос с другим ответом.
Хотя должен заметить, что и при правильных расчетах дисконтированная стоимость может в особых случаях быть выше номинала.